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to beat president obama. a look at the war in afghanistan. now the longest war. how do we get out? does obama's policy differ from president bush's and what is the effect for generations to come? joe and mika and willie join in the conversation later this hour. we begin with the debt crisis. they are trying to make a deal on the deficit. houses of congress are rolling out separate compromises to safe off a default. harry reid is meeting with mitch mcconnell to craft a solution to appeal to both parties. according to reports, this would do the following. it would allow the debt ceiling to be raised three times for a total of $2.5 trillion. in exchange, some $1.5 trillion in spending cuts would be enacted. the plan would be established to identify new deficit cuts. proposal, already, getting a lukewarm response from the fellow republicans. among them, the freshman snar mark arubio and tom coburn. take a listen. >> it gives the president the ability to raise the debt limit. the debt limit isn't the problem. the problem is the debt. the plan, as outlined to me isn't a credible solution. >>
who have died in afghanistan and in iraq, their phones may have been hacked. then we find out that the phones of those widowed in 9/11, for example, their phones may have been interfered with. that's when it went from sort of acceptable to this is now an appalling, and as james murdoch said the other day, inhuman turn of events. >> what about the people who allegedly did this hacking? do we know exactly who they are at this point? do we know how many of them there are? >> well, this is the point. we don't know how many of them there were. news international, the news the world, for a long period of time, said that there were just a rogue reporter involved in this. the rogue reporter went to prison as did glen vulcary, who was the private investigator. now it comes to light there could be as many as 4,000 people whose phone messages have been listened to, by -- let me tell you, we don't know about the numbers but many, many journalists, not just at the news of the world but possibly across the entire camp. >> this story not over yet. becky anderson, thank you very much. >>> com
out in afghanistan or ahmed wali karzai. the president wept openly during the burial at one point climbing inside the grave to help move his brother's body. ahmed karzai was murdered yesterday by a trusted body guard. >>> there will be a second memorial service in michigan tonight for former first lady betty ford. she died friday at age 93 was mourned at funeral services yesterday in palm desert, among those attending, rosalyn carter, hillary clinton. >>> prince fielder got mvp for this three-run homer in the fourth inning. >>> 14 minutes past the hour. here's chris. >> thanks so much. >>> a blistering heat wave continues across large sections of the country, from texas to the east coast while parts of the northeast will finally see some relief today. cbs's betty nguyen is in times square with more for us today. hi betty. >> reporter: hi there chris. we've been lucky in new york, seen temperatures in the high 90s but in the plains states, this heat wave is fueling one of the worst droughts that many have seen in decades. crippling heat gripped half of the nation tuesday as the nat
in afghanistan, general david petraeus targeted by bin laden. >>> and here in washington, president obama urges democrats and republicans to avert what he calls armageddon, telling them to set politics aside as the clock ticks closer toward an impending default on the u.s. national debt. >>> and californians are bracing for what they call carmageddon. we want to welcome our viewers in the united states and around the world. breaking news and political headlines all straight ahead. i'm wolf blitzer, you're in the "situation room." >>> we begin with alarming new signs osama bin laden may have been plotting an attack on the president of the united states. those details coming from the stash of documents found inside bin laden's compound after u.s. special forces killed the al qaeda leader. our pentagon correspondent barbara star is working the details for us. tell us what we know, barbara. >> make no mistake about it that at this hour, there are grim new details about what osama bin laden had in mind. >> reporter: while hiding out in his compound, osama bin laden was hatching up a new nightmare sc
and afghanistan to the relatives of the 2005 london transit bombings as well as the royal family. the editor has been arrested. david cameron has opened a public inquiry. for the first time in over a month, the yemen president spoke out. he's gone over eight operations. his complexion was darker, hands and arms covered with bandages. facial hair was gone. he made no mention of when he would return to yemen and welcomes power sharing as long as it is within the country's constitutional frame work. diplomats said there was a slim chance he would return. tell me what this means and your reaction to what you saw in terms of his appearance. >> it was bizarre. it's part of a larger power. look at yemen and egypt. what you see are prolonged stalemates and situation that is looked helpful. the middle east is in for a long, hot summer. a difficult winter and beyond. this is not going to be anything like a quick move to democracy and these countries. you can have large, ungoverned spaces where terrorists move in. it's a challenge for the united states. >> what is the largest threat to our national securit
they get to afghanistan. we want you to listen and watch some of the things that we saw when we went there. >> the wounds appear to be superficial. >> 15 up, and ten minutes back. category a, priority one. >> reporter: every day, dozens of trauma patients are wheeled here. this man came from multiple stab wounds. but right alongside the civilian trauma doctors, nurses and techs, military personnel. >> the injuries that i have treated here and see here at this hospital are the closest thing to the injuries that i saw in iraq that i experienced in the continental of the united states. i have had a gentleman whose entire scalp was torn off in an industrial accident, and i have an individual who was now involved in a motor vehicle accident, and we have to rerecrate the skull like we have to do in an ied blast. >> if you suffer one of these traumas, but if you do, there is going to be medical personnel who was in the medical war zone, either as a reservists, or who served in active duty and then retired and went into private practice in communities across the country. doctors tell us what they
places in afghanistan where there are stories and continuing reports that iranian munitions and arms are arriving there. >> you are right. it is an ongoing concern. i have to put it in perspective though, because this is nothing from the weaponry coming in from iran. because if you look at that coming in from pakistan is two times less than iran. that doesn't mean it is insignificant, and we have to look for the trends in the weaponry, because if it is escalating in a major way, we have to think about responses and those could include the full range none of which are satisfying, but we may have to put more forces in the west of afghanistan and devote more afghan capability to the western border which is one of the defensive things you can do and think of some offensive actions. >> indeed. now, we are guard to pakistan, isn't withholding $800 million potentially self-injurious, because we, america, is relying on the pakistan army to fight radical islamic terrorists in their own backyard without those fund, and doesn't that stymie our attempt to fight al qaeda? >> absolutely. this is a
part d, and iraq and afghanistan on the credit card. so, democrats like me, and i even think that bernie are absolutely opposed to raiding social security, or raiding medicare to supplement the tax cuts for the wealthy, and on the other hand, to the extent that we do anything with social security, like for instance, should we raise the cap? i e kind kind of think we shoul because it raises more money into the social security, but it has to go there to make sure that the program is solvent. we would resist the president if his approach, and he has not outlined what it is, but to take away benefits on medicare and social security. >> what do you say to the constituents who look at this impasse, these stalled talks and say, look at washington. they can't address the commitments that have been made financially, that we need to pay for. they can't even get to the bottom of an agreement on this issue. >> i e say thsay they are right. there is an enormous frustration with the american public of having a debate as if paying the bills is optional. a great country has a great commitmen
of defense, leon panetta. panetta arrived from afghanistan. iran is supplying weapons to extremists in iraq as they prepare to leave the country. panetta says he will not walk away from this challenge and urging iraq to crack down on the insurgents. troops were killed in june. three more in the first ten days of this month. a few hours after panetta spoke with u.s. troops, three rockets landed in the green zone in central baghdad, no casualties. >>> in texas, hundreds of people attended the funeral service today for a man who fell to his death at a texas rangers baseball game. 39-year-old shannon stone will be buried in his hometown of brownwood. a firefighter died thursday after falling 20 feet while trying to catch a ball for his 6-year-old son with him at the game. josh hamilton tossed a foul ball to the stands. he reached for the ball but lost his balance and crashed head first to a score board. the rangers have donated an undisclosed sum of money to help the stone family. >>> even though british tabloid "news of the world" printed the last issue on sunday, the scandal hitting rupert mu
vowed to investigate whether phone hackers targeted 9/11 victims. >>> thousands turn out in afghanistan for the funeral of ahmed wali karzai. the president went openly during that burial. climbing inside the grave to help move his brother's body at one point. karzai was mureded yesterday by a trusted family guard. on the way to the the funeral two roadside bombs was the target but no one hurt. >>> a second memorial service tonight in michigan for betty ford who died friday at 93 was mourned at funeral services yesterday in palm desert, california. among those attending first ladies rosalynn carter and michelle obama and nancy reagan and former president george w. bush was also there. >>> the national league in the all-star game won for the second year in a row. the brewers prince fielder got mf honomvp honors for this home. 14 minutes past the hour. now here is chris. >> the game has to mean something. a blistering heat wave from texas all the way to the east coast. while parts of the northeast which got hit with triple digit temperatures yesterday will finally see some relief today. cb
it happened. >>> a man regarded as one of the most powerful politicians in southern afghanistan was shot dead today in kandahar, ahmed karzai was kandahar's council chief and the half-brother of afghanistan president karzai. he was killed inside hi home today during a gathers of tribal eltders. witnesses say he was shot by a bodyguard, a man karzai trusted and close to them for years. the taliban has claimed responsibility saying the shooter worked for them. >>> leon panetta has strong words for the iraq government while expressing the delay keeping troops in the country through the end of the year deadline. the secretaries y of defense wa baghdad monday and he met with troops at camp victory there where he took several questions. one san diego asks if the iraq leaders were ready to take over. i want you to listen to panetta's response. >> there are people that are going to disagree, there are people that are going to have different views. that's got to play out. that's what's happening here. very frankly sometimes it can be frustrating. i'd like things to move faster here in terms of the dec
eventually is a $1 trillion we are going to save from the wars in iraq and afghanistan. a peace dividend. now in the deliberations, republicans say that does not count any longer. having voted for it. so there is more than a little inconsistency all the way are around. that'll it is serious when you hear some members, a freshman, and some of the people campaigning for president, saying that you really do not have to raise the debt ceiling. and you would not really compromise anything much. but the truth is, the facts showed you can pay off the entitlements, but then you cannot pay soldiers in the field. you cannot have a justice department. you cannot have anybody looking at whether your borders are sick. you cannot have education. you cannot pay anything if you pay those bills and interest on bonds. that is it. >> that is why i think the good news in as bad situation is john boehner saying he still thinks we can get a big deal. >> the rupert murdoch scandal may have cost the atlantic. at the department of justice and all kinds of federal agencies will be going after this very hard. we will,
notes to families who succumb to suicide in iraq and afghanistan. the official note from the president reads this decision was made after a difficult and exhaustive review of the former policy, and i did not make it lightly. this issue is emotional, painful, and complicated, but these americans served bravely. they didn't die because they were weak, and the fact they didn't get the help they needed must change. since the beginning of the wars in iraq and afghanistan, more than 1800 members of the military have committed suicide during active duty. even more staggering, more active duty troops have died in the last two years from suicide than in combat. now the president will be writing letters to the families of the service members. here's hoping he has to write very, very few. greg keesling tol us his wife cried for the first time in two years. we're going to heal, he said. we're going to heal. that's
overnight or afghanistan overnight. so you are kidding yourself if you think there are instant savings. and the administration is cautious and it can look around and there was a remarkable hearing on the hill this morning where you had republican freshman house members chastising a former republican senator for being too much of a lobbyist for the defense industry and the administration can say, the climate is different and we have an opportunity here, and let's make use of it. >> thank you so much, heather. >> thank you, ezra, for having me. >> and now over to washington, d.c. where twistery has been made. >> first of all, everybody can sit down. it is much easier to tweet from a seated position. >> i understand that you want to start the conversation off with a tweeter here. >> i want to make history here as the first president to live tweet. so, we have a computer over here. >> and with that, the first twitter town hall began. initially 720,000 tweets were send to the president, and 20,000 tweets on jobs and another 15,000 on the budget. and while the president fielded 18 twitter qu
and afghanistan. he is in baghdad this morning where he's meeting with u.s. forces as well as iraqi leaders. he says iraq has to do more to prevent insurge attacks on americans with iranian weapons. >> i would like for iraq to exert more of an effort to go after those extremists that are making use of these weapons, that if you are going, they have a responsibility to protect against that kind of attack occurring. >> all 46,000 remaining american troops are withdrawing this year under an agreement between the two countries. iraqi leaders are debating whether to request u.s. troops stay in the country beyond 2011. >>> this morning, pakistan telling america, keep your money, after the u.s. announced it's withholding $800 million in military aid. this is more evidence of the growing rift between the u.s. and pakistan. white house chief of staff william daly says it's in response to pakistan's decision to cut back on counterterrorism operations after the killing of osama bin laden. the u.s. typically gives pakistan more than $2 billion a year in security assistance. >>> u.s. joint chiefs of staff a
petteri will be receiving the medal of honor because he had a gun to his head in afghanistan. he was asked to do something for his country, let's ask these people in washington to do something for their country. just get together and get something done. >> you know, there is huge news out of afghanistan this morning that we're going to get to as well as rupert murdoch and his media empire. what's going on with that. >> this is extending, by the way, to "the times" of london? >> yes, the big story. >> the other players, this is earth shattering. i thought the big thing -- i thought it was about one tabloid. whew. this is so serious. >>> ahead this morning, we're going to bring in the ranking member of the budget committee, congressman chris van hollen. and oil tycoon t. boone pickens will be here. eugene robinson. >> by the way, on that story, i mean, they're not tapping the phones of the british prime minister, but they're -- they're trying to get his records -- >> may be an institution that has rot on the the core. it is a big problem. >> medical records. >> bank accounts. >> after the br
in the attacks in afghanistan or to bring that message home, you need us i >>dave: and how big a concern is an attack in the united states on the 10th anniversary? >>guest: this is the first anniversary a sense of celebration and resolution and every member of al qaeda is going to want to spoil that. so you will have home green terrorists that will look at that date. >>dave: so all eyes on that date and that will be our tightest secured date so a difficult day to pull anything off? >>guest: it is possible but there are so many soft targets and the bar is so low for al qaeda because they have not pulled off another september 11th it does not have to be in new york city. >>dave: ryan, thank you for being here. millions of americans are locking for america but how can you separate yourself from the field? why who you know could be more important than what you know. giving them a new choice. we'll deliver better service, with thousands of new cell sites... f greater access to all the things you want, whenever you want them. it's the at&t network... and what's possible in here is almost impos
, and two wars, iraq and afghanistan that were not paid for, and a bad recession that somebody was responsible for creating. and if you listen to the republicans, they are saying 2 1/2 years of the obama administration and the enormous growth in spending, that's to blame. >> i heard the same thing you heard. it's clear that they won't use george w. bush's name anymore, because the american public has said the statute of limitations is up on that, you cannot blame your predecessor anymore, and he did go through that litany. he did make the case i am on the side of the american public and the republicans are on the wrong side of public opinion on this. 80% of the polls that we looked at showed 67% of the american public wants to get a deal that has both revenue and spending cuts. but when you look at the internals of those polls, they also show the republican party itself is with the republican leaders in saying no taxes. it's kind of a split in the republican party for sure, but the overwhelming number comes from when you add in independent voters and democratic voters. so the p
like libya, afghanistan. steny hoyer, the number two democrat in the house, he is more in line with the president. i think it is fair to say than nancy pelosi. >> that split within the democratic party is a challenge president obama has in rallying his own troops. i want to bring some breaking news on another story. the british media, including the bbc, reporting that former british prime minister, gordon brown, is going to be making a statement very shortly. he is claiming that his phone and bank account were hacked by the sunday times. that's another murdock newspaper. this is going to be a statement that he is making very shortly. it comes after, as you know, the news of the world, another murdock publication was discontinued for allegedly hacking phones and other private information from those who are celebrities and numerous other people who fell victim to that publication. now, another murdock publication, allegedly, hacking phone and bank accounts of the former prime minister, gordon brown. that is according to gordon brown and his office. he is going to be releasing tha
from afghanistan. >> i take a moment of my day to invite you on november 18, with yours truly, from new jersey, take a second, think about it and get back to me. molly: sergeant scott moore from the manies posted this video over 46,000 people have watched it so far and still no word on her response. >> she is cool, and beside being gorgeous on a 70's show and she made a really good movie. sorry i brought it up i can't remember the movie. molly: "black swan." >> she is funny with a huge bit of talent. >> maybe it will come true. >>dave: and now, in sports, from china, ming has decided to call it quits retiring after nine seasons. ming has been plagued by injuries and missed 250 games. and 9-time all star because china can vote, but he would still be six or seven time all star, and ming will hold a news conference in shanghai later this month to discuss his future plans. he changed the game bringing it to china. and more news of the troubled ohio state football program. the buckeyes were 12-1 last season but they decided to vacate all of their wins including the sugar land bowl in hopes t
cuts causing a major part of our long term debts and our deficits. two wars in iraq and afghanistan that if we were to draw down earlier for example, in afghanistan would deal with long-term debt issues. so let's put those things on the table. corporate loopholes, instead of just turning to the piggy bank of social security and medicare. >> what about medicaid? would you cut that? >> medicaid, i mean, the challenge we have from medicaid is we want to make sure that we don't shift, simply shift the burden on to our states, which really can't afford that right now. again, the conversations about these entitlement programs while i find might be, you know, important for us to engage in, we're conflating apples an oranges when it comes to, one, listing our debt ceiling and dealing with major causal factors for our long-term debt. >> i'm asking about all these possible cuts, which you've rejected, because the cost of government right now is up to about 25% of our economy right now. and the revenues are about at 16%. seems to me to get 0 to some quality, raise revenues to 2022 and bring do
by u.s. officials in afghanistan he was allowed close enough to kill seven cia agents? >>> finally, let me finish with a second look at most memorable moment of the week when rupert murdoch's wife wendi supposedly saved him from a pie throwing comedian. call me skeptical but i'm calling it piegate. >>> we start with deal or no deal. the "new york times" reported this afternoon, the obama administration has informed democratic congressional leaders that president obama and speaker boehner were about to close in on a major deal that would enact substantial spending cuts and seek future revenues through -- the administration on wednesday night notified top members of congress that an agreemd between the president and mr. boehner could be imminent. but white house spokesman jay carney was quick to knock down the story. let's listen. >> the breaking news reports you all have probably received is incorrect. there is no deal. we are not close to a deal. we are obviously -- the president is in discussions with all the leaders of congress, as well as other members, and exploring the possibility
they are. i know a way to cut $2 trillion out of the deficit, end the wars in afghanistan, and iraq, and libya, those wars cost us $157 billion last year, the cost is going up, not down. if you want to say $2 trillion, how about peace? give that a try? >> social security, a bigger deal, it seems like. harry reed was on "meet the press" said we didn't have a problem. the president now wants to put it on the table. the president acknowledged it is not part of the deficit problem, that is starting to sink with in americas. >> social security is not the source of our deficit problems. social security if it is part of a package, would be an issue of how do we make sure social security extends its life and is strengthened. >> so, strengthened means cuts, get the code language out here. any time you want to strengthen something, you are going ask consumers, who pay into the program, have to do more for the two top percent. if it is not the the source of the problem, why address it now? >> washington sdwided the meanies and weanies that is the two-party system. the meanies want to take soci
behind, the war in iraq, some said don't try to build a nation in afghanistan. stop spending all this money. when the democrats came in in 2009, they increased every department 10%. if it's 25% the feds are taking and the 12 to 15 the state and local are taking. that's why they are all cutting back. >> pat, pat, pat -- >> you will drive this economy deeper into recession if you put $1 trillion in taxes on it. >> pat, i don't disagree with cutting spending. i'm trying to tell you 70% of how we got into this problem was spending and 30% was cutting spending that we wouldn't afford. it happens to be 70% spending reductions. 30% tax increase. >> this is one place i agree with krugman. mike barnicle should be in this. jobs are the thing. we have to create jobs. how does hammering business with $1 trillion in tax increases when government is going down in size, they created the only jobs. john heilemann. >> just as point of fact -- was about letting part of the bush tax cuts expire after 2012. that's where the revenue is going to come. no tax increase in 2011 or 2012. it was raising ta
the wars in iraqnd and afghanistan, which the republicans are calling a budgetary gimmick and not real savings. the yet, the ryan budget, which almost a every house and senate republican voted for, counted the same cuts almost identically. so, they say it is real savings to thee ryan plan with state savings in the reid proposal.-- i am sorry, but you can't have it both ways. reid' further, senator reid's plan actually is all cuts. i don't necessarily like that. contains dollar for dollar spending cuts to match the debtt ceiling increase. mh as much as i don't like this aspect of it, it doesn't include any revenues. even though a "washington post" abc newsabc poll said that 72% f the american public believes we should have those makingma over. $250,000 pay more. 72%.lo what republicans haveng wanted l along and now we are giving it to wen them. and all of the cuts and plans up and supported by republicans in the past. so, we are presentingse a plan that is all cuts, no revenue. the pretense that they are using to reject it just doesn't pass the j smell test. and according to cbo, it sav
of other members of congress, there were warlords from the northern alliance of afghanistan that wanted to meet with us because we were told that the administration didn't want to meet with them and after we met with them it was clear why the administration wouldn't want to. now, i was not aware and it was during the bush administration, of course, our initial actions in afghanistan, we sent in intelligence, we sent in special forces, we sent in weaponry, we equipped the northern alliance tribes who had a special personal interest in defeating the taliban. and afghanistan as a whole had seen how evil the taliban was. how much damage they could do to society as they burned paintings and books and films and totally suppressed freedom in afghanistan. they knew. these people were evil but they were afraid of them but with the united states weaponry, with our guidance and intelligence training these people defeated the taliban. what i was not aware of until we met with these folks and turns out i could have been aware, i just was not, but do you the research, you find out, the bush administr
with the war in afghanistan, not to bring jobs back to the american economy, but to cause the president of the united states not to be re-elected, any proposal from somebody in that mode is something that's going to take a little close scrutiny before you sign onto it. >> mcconnell has lost credibility with you? >> it's a question of what his priorities are, and if that's his priority, then thing that is he proposes need close scrutiny. i don't want to kick the idea to the curb. it could be a solution to this, but we need to see the details. >> congresswoman edwards, $4 trillion is a heck of a lot of money. are you one of the 77 that signed off to this letter that keith ellisson told me about today? >> i have. my principle concern is about cuts to medicare and social security. i made that very clear and sent a letter last week to the president telling him that what i want to be clear about is we don't do anything that con strains the president's hands. i'm looking forward to hear from him about his response to the mcconnell proposal. what i will say is republicans are all over the map.
route for aid into afghanistan, so i think what's happening now is that calmer heads are starting to prevail, and i think if these one-on-one talks with the head of the cia and the head of the isi and perhaps with secretary clinton, you're going to see an opportunity to salvage this very important but very tense and troubled relationship. >> indeed. thanks so much for your insight. >>> next, the murdoch hacking scandal moves to the halls of capitol hill. stay with us. us restoring rinse. it's the only listerine® that gets teeth two shades whiter and makes tooth enamel two times stronger. get dual-action listerine® whitening rinse. building whiter, stronger teeth. >>> another high-stakes meeting at the white house begins in just under 40 minute, but it's hard to exaggerate how serious this situation has become, with both sides apparently at loggerheads over how to raise the debt ceiling by the beginning of august. congresswoman loretta sanchez is a congresswoman from california, and i'm delighted to say she joins us. good afternoon. >> good afternoon. thanks for having me. >> do
don't leave any troops in iraq and ditto with afghanistan. get on with governing an america that puts its own citizens first and concentrates on bettering the home country for everybody who lives here. in case you hadn't noticed while you were wasting trillions on useless wars, america has fallen in a pit of overspending, foreclosure and unemployment. john writes the usa needs to get out of iraq as soon as possible. what is the president thinking. the huge budget mess is largely due to the wars in iraq and afghanistan. how can they think of cutting social security or medicare for our seniors and disabled citizens at the cost of these wars? i'm 60 and i feel my future is very uncertain. ter fre arizona writes how many way do i need to respond with no for my reply to be read on air? you got it done. >> i hope that makes terry happy. >> i don't care if it does or not. >> new evidence of the dangerous links between al qaeda leaders and the growing terror threat in somalia. wa can casey anthony expect when she walks out of jail next week. the security and the spectacle >>> new information
here. >> thank you. >>> up next, how can an al qaeda terrorist in afghanistan, a triple agent, if you will, manage to infiltrate the cia and kill seven operatives? we're going to talk to the author of a hit new book that takes us inside the 2009 attack. that's next, and this is "hardball" only on msnbc. >>> the u.s. government's remaining shares in the company meaning the government's $12.5 billion bailout ended up costing taxpayers $1.3 billion. >>> we'll be right back. 8gg@├║ >>> welcome back to "hardball." it's been more than two months since u.s. special forces shot and killed osama bin laden. in the wake of that success, it's easy to forget the long, hard road to get there. back in debt of 2009, the cia thought he had the ultimate double agent who would lead them to the top echelon of al qaeda but turn out to be a triple agent, buried so deeply into the cia when he detonated the bomb he was wearing he killed seven cia agents as well as himself. "washington post" national correspondent jody warrick writes an that and how the cia was duped in his new book calmed "the triple threat:
of parents of deceased members of the armed forces in the united kingdom who were killed in afghanistan and iraq. >> what were they hoping to find in hacking those calls? >> obviously, they were looking for information about families, they were looking for details about millie, did she disappear, this 13-year-old girl, was she with a boyfriend somewhere, so they had access. >> the number of people that had to be involved in this exercise sounds pretty big. >> and this is remarkable. in 2007, the managing director of "news of the world," who is now the director of "the "wall street journal"," went before a house select committee and said there was one rogue reporter at "news of the world." it's now emerged it was rife throughout the paper that virtually everybody involved was hacking someone's phone for stories, and that's why rupert murdoch took the decision at the weekend to close that newspaper for good. that's a newspaper that's existed for 168 years. no more. >> and the law on this in britain? >> oh, it's a criminal offense. but what's worse is it's now emerged that they had fiscal
: there are about 400 norwegian soldiers serving in the international force in afghanistan. in london greg talcott, fox news. >>> the trouble for news corp. is far from over tonight, this testimony to parliament now under fire. we'll tell you whose testimony is under fire, the latest twist coming up next. >>> we are following new developments tonight in the phone hacking scandal that's rocking britain. news corp., the parent company of fox 5, is facing increased scrutiny here at home in connection to the news of the world scandal. >> reporter: in a joint statement a former editor of the news of the world and a former lawyer for the paper tom krohn saying james murdoch knew that the phone hacking was not limited to the single reporter at the now closed newspaper. referencing tuesday's hearing before a british parliamentary committee where james murdoch and his father testified the two former employees said they would like to point out james murdoch's recollection of what he was told was mistaken. the british prime minister reacted. >> clearly james murdoch has questions to answer in parliament and
of honor recipient. >> willie, so many guys that have been in that situation, iraq and afghanistan and you are involved in helping some of them. we met some of them a couple weeks back. >> yes, a group called operation men. guys severely burned in ied explosions. the thing that strikes you with them and staff sergeant petry, they want to go back. >> they all want to go back. >> they want to get back and be with their brothers. sergeant petry eight deployments. he went back after losing his hand. he went back to fight. >> we have been talking, not just this morning but days on end about what's going on in washington with the debt ceiling. sergeant petry just said something about the men and women he served with having their bodies stole from them. it's an exact quote. they have something else stolen from them. it's full recovery. it's assistance for traumatic brain injuries down the road for decades to come. we have to pay for these things. >> we do. >> they better bear down in washington, 10% as much as sergeant petry, bear down. >> it's going to be a long, long haul for the young men and
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